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Jul 1, 2020 at 4:08 history bounty awarded Jeff Atwood
Jun 28, 2020 at 12:59 comment added Ham Vocke StaffMod @Robotnik Arqade Meta was done, yes. I can only assume that there was another slight difference in the resulting HTML when using the new renderer, so the migration erred on the side of caution and didn't auto-fix the headline formatting in that post.
Jun 28, 2020 at 4:47 comment added Robotnik @Ham - was Arqade Meta done? I just found this post's header formatting was broken today.
Jun 22, 2020 at 5:53 comment added Big Brother @Ham, please see this.
Jun 21, 2020 at 10:54 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 18, 2020 at 14:38 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 18, 2020 at 8:54 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrate remaining network sites. only SO + Teams left
Jun 17, 2020 at 10:16 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
Migrated a bunch of sites, schedule last round
Jun 17, 2020 at 2:08 comment added Mentalist Wow, that looks like a LOT of work, since each sub-site varies somewhat in its design and features. Do you guys ever wish Stack Exchange were just one site?
Jun 16, 2020 at 15:43 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 16, 2020 at 11:54 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 16, 2020 at 9:07 comment added AncientSwordRage @JosephSible-ReinstateMonica I imagine that means someone will be in on the weekend to check it. Friday deployments are only bad if no one is in to use it/test it
Jun 15, 2020 at 21:52 comment added Joseph Sible-Reinstate Monica You're doing Stack Overflow on a weekend?
Jun 15, 2020 at 15:36 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
Add Stack Overflow to schedule
Jun 15, 2020 at 9:17 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 15, 2020 at 8:28 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 15, 2020 at 7:55 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated mathoverflow, english
Jun 12, 2020 at 14:55 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated superuser, askubuntu, schedule next
Jun 12, 2020 at 13:21 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
update current status
Jun 12, 2020 at 12:28 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated math
Jun 11, 2020 at 15:35 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated gis, schedule next
Jun 11, 2020 at 15:23 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated electronics
Jun 11, 2020 at 15:07 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 11, 2020 at 14:49 history edited Braiam CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 11, 2020 at 14:42 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated stats
Jun 11, 2020 at 14:25 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated unix
Jun 11, 2020 at 11:06 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated es.stackoverflow
Jun 11, 2020 at 10:20 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 11, 2020 at 9:48 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 10, 2020 at 14:56 history edited Luuklag CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 10, 2020 at 14:16 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated academia, schedule next
Jun 10, 2020 at 14:08 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated chemistry
Jun 10, 2020 at 13:54 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated android
Jun 10, 2020 at 13:37 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated code review
Jun 10, 2020 at 13:02 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated blender
Jun 10, 2020 at 12:49 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated TeX
Jun 9, 2020 at 16:57 comment added barbara beeton I see that TeX - LaTeX is scheduled for tomorrow. Please be super-aware that TeX is not Mathjax. (Many people equate them.) I guess that tells me what I'll have to be doing tomorrow. Fortunately, one of our active participants has been keeping track, and gave us advance warning.
Jun 9, 2020 at 11:17 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
schedule next round of sites
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Linking to specific meta discussions
Jun 6, 2020 at 15:59 review Suggested edits
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Jun 5, 2020 at 16:08 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
Add current status section
Jun 4, 2020 at 16:18 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 4, 2020 at 15:21 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
migrated movies & tv
Jun 3, 2020 at 22:40 comment added Andrew Leach I can see User Experience is a long way down the list, but don't forget BML. It might be good to annotate the list with particular issues you foresee (like MathJax and other oddities).
Jun 3, 2020 at 19:45 comment added Luuklag @HamVocke as there is some disturbance around the licensing shown in the timeline would you consider holding off on switching over SO (and other technical sites with lots of code snippets) untill Yaakov has deployed the fix for the licensing issue mentioned in Glorfindel's answer? Just to avoid creating too much confusion.
Jun 3, 2020 at 19:33 history edited Luuklag CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 3, 2020 at 15:44 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
meta.SO is done.
Jun 3, 2020 at 14:18 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 3, 2020 at 14:11 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 3, 2020 at 13:53 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 3, 2020 at 13:49 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jun 2, 2020 at 12:04 comment added barbara beeton @HamVocke -- The last time it wasn't intentional, and we learned about the problem only when we started getting complaints that answers weren't working, in fact were causing compilations to crash. Please let us know when this is scheduled (at least our moderators) so that results can be reviewed by TeX-knowledgeable users before activation.
Jun 2, 2020 at 10:33 comment added gnat I would consider scheduling Puzzling prior to Movies because this would allow testing for spoilers isolated from video embedding
Jun 2, 2020 at 9:23 history edited Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
Add all network sites
Jun 2, 2020 at 7:24 comment added Ham Vocke StaffMod @DavidZ good call, let me get something out to Physics and Movies & TV. I don't think we'll announce this for every single site but for the first few it's certainly reasonable to do so explicitly.
Jun 2, 2020 at 7:22 comment added Ham Vocke StaffMod @barbarabeeton we won't delete anything. When changing a post to CommonMark we're creating a new revision of the existing post that can be rolled back manually or as a batch operation (if we really have to). Also, we're only creating those new revisions when we're confident that it's safe to do so.
Jun 1, 2020 at 21:00 comment added Nat The SE.Physics migration on 2020-06-04 seems notable since SE.Physics has MathJax (for TeX) enabled.
Jun 1, 2020 at 19:53 comment added barbara beeton May we respectfully request that the "old" contents of a site don't get deleted until the denizens of that site have confirmed that nothing essential has changed? When the tex.stackexchange site was last mass-changed, a significant proportion of our example code was trashed, with double-backslashes reduced to singles, rendering the code invalid, and many of us spent hundreds of hours repairing the damage manually. There are still occasional instances of this carnage found from time to time. We are shivering in our shoes.
Jun 1, 2020 at 19:51 comment added David Z (Physics mod here) @HamVocke In case you're not already planning it, would you consider making a post on our meta site a day or two in advance to let people know to describe the change and look out for possible errors in post rendering? Sometimes it takes a little while for people to notice things on our meta site.
Jun 1, 2020 at 14:56 comment added Ham Vocke StaffMod We've built an automated rollback if things go horribly wrong. This will require undoing the entire migration post by post so it will be yet another intense calculation. If we can avoid a rollback, we'd love to avoid a rollback. I think we have to live with some level of confusion for the time being and make sure get all sites migrated soon :)
Jun 1, 2020 at 14:43 comment added Erik A I do anticipate some confusion and room for bugs when different sites use different markdown dialects. Have migrations been tested and will they convert in both directions when needed?
Jun 1, 2020 at 13:52 comment added Ham Vocke StaffMod We're trying to strike a good balance between size, risk, and impact. We want to learn on small sites first that include some unique features (mathjax, spoilers, video embedding). Then we want to move to the bigger sites in the network soon to get these changes into the hands of many users. I've picked the first few sites somewhat arbitrarily based on the idea of being small enough to allow fast feedback while using some of our special features. Hope this gives you rough idea of the general reasoning.
Jun 1, 2020 at 13:35 comment added Catija StaffMod @JohnOmielan Not trying to answer for Ham - but a note, both M&TV and Physics have integrations that may prove ... complicating factors - the YouTube embedding and MathJax.
Jun 1, 2020 at 13:21 comment added John Omielan @HamVocke It seems to me the least generally risky method would be to apply this change to smaller sites first, so any issues found would usually affect fewer posts, and then can be taken care of first before applying to the changes to larger sites later. Are there any particular reasons you can tell us about why the particular sites you show above have been chosen, and in the particular order you show them in?
Jun 1, 2020 at 12:38 comment added Ham Vocke StaffMod I'm going to add more dates to this schedule as we learn more and grow more confident over time. For starters I'm keeping this small because I don't want to over-promise without having a real idea for the first few batches we're going to run. I know that more clarity would be better but it's pretty hard to pull off. I expect us to be able to post a way larger schedule once we've migrated the first few sites.
Jun 1, 2020 at 12:15 comment added yagmoth555 Should we plan a date for all other sites ? as we would feel include inside the change as well that way :)
Jun 1, 2020 at 12:08 history answered Ham VockeStaffMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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